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I haven’t posted here in quite some time, but yesterday an event occurred which I thought should be shared with other caregivers.
An active shooter situation occurred about a mile from me in public housing for the elderly. Apparently it was some type of assisted living.
The apartment building was partially (apparently) evacuated. Residents were kept together on the street; many were in wheelchairs.
It seems the police of the city as well as surrounding neighborhoods managed to evacuate those people before any harm came to them.
The 70 year old shooter was found dead early this morning. Cause of death is unclear at this point.
My concern and reason for posting is that if any of you have family or friends in assisted living, especially public housing, ask the administration what the gun policy is, and be diligent to ensure that your relatives or friends are not in a situation in which an active shooter can endanger their lives.
Please share this with your friends.

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Mikkimball - I took the time to look at your profile because you seem to be under a great deal of stress.

As you've never mentioned your mother, I looked to see what issues you may be having and if anything could be said to help and support you.

Thats is what we do here - help and support each other with the terrible stress caring for an aging loved one can bring.

Thats all.
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Isthisrealyreal?
Did you BBQ veggies today? I just love grilled veggies.
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Mik, I think you are in danger of being what you accuse Republicans of being.

I have both parties in my family and friends, they are as appalled at the current political climate as can be, but they are not believing that anyone in Washington is right. It has degraded to a circus side act and I am afraid that it is both parties refusing to be the adult in the room.

It takes two to tangle, if everyone would start doing their jobs it may settle down, but none of them will humble themselves to step back, a proverbial pizzing match it will remain.

I have to say that the 2016 choices for President made me very sad, we are the greatest nation on the planet and this is the best our political parties can produce for candidates. Sad beyond measure.

I believe we should all pray for our leaders, whether we like them or not, because what they do impacts us all and we should all hope and pray they do a good job.
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The shooting did not occur at an ALF.

It was government housing and it was a big, loud, dramatic suicide. Not a mass shooting.

Hey, did anyone have veggies on the grill for father's day?
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Worried inCali,
I'm not confused at all. But I think you are if you believe this is not a political forum and that the responses to the discussion about the shooting in the elderly facility are not political. Perhaps you are thinking of the wrong forum. Maybe you thought you were referring to a different forum?
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Mikkimball you are confused. This isn’t a political forum. This is a community for caregivers. No one here except you has brought up political parties, political affiliation or religion. And no not all republicans are of the same opinion re:gun control. The same can be said for Dems, not all Dems want gun control. If you read a few replies on this ONE thread and have decided to lump us all as right wong Republicans, again I say you are confused and maybe you thought you were posting on another forum?

FWIW I am not a republican. Or a Democrat for that matter.
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Rainmom, I don't understand what the confusion is about or why this is of importance to you. My mother is 90 and has many health issues and impairments. I don't see why you would be confused or take the time to ask about this at this time
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No, not anti-Christ. But because the Republicans want a theocracy, won't listen to reason when children are being massacred in their schools and the elderly in their facilities, and force their religious beliefs on others who have a right to terminate their pregnancies and do want they want with their own bodies, then that I have an issue with. They all are of the same opinion regarding gun control, despite the horrors we see every day. They quote the Supreme Court rulings. But when the Supreme Court rules as it did in Roe vs.Wade, they refuse to abide by the ruling and do everything they can to undermine and circumvent it including voting into office the worst President in US history. They believe everything they hear on Fox news and are subsequently against affordable health care. Did Christ carry a weapon? Would Christ be against healthcare for the poor?Matthew 25:36 "when i was sick you cared for me"
They seem to be the least Christian people I know of. They all listen to Fox news and are anti-Muslim and zenophobic. They are the modern day Pharisees. And they cannot be reasoned with. This I have an issue with, and I have decided their really is no reasoning with them, we simply have to fight to make sure their is affordable healthcare for all, lobby against the NRA and insure that we do have appropriate gun control so that children and the elderly can live in a safe society, and insure that their is a separation of Church and state and that people have the right to self determination with regard to their own bodies and their right to terminate a pregnancy if they so choose.
No, I have tried to reason with the people on this board and you see every single opinion is anti-gun control, individualistic? coincidence? No, Evangelical, right wing Republicanism. We have tried reasoning with you but there is no reasoning with you, so the time for that I truly believe is over, which is the opinion of my liberal, Democratic friends as well. We can no longer afford to see you do what you have done to this country with this idiot you put in office.
Now, that being said, I need to add that I do genuinely like your posts, Isthisrealyreal, and am of the opinion that you are a very nice person.
But as far as the overwhelmingly right wing opinions of this site, you can have them; they are dangerous and cultish
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mikkimball0664 - can you clarify your profile?

You say in one part you are 62 and that your caring for your 90 year old mother.

But in another part you say you are caring for your 62 year old, hard of hearing mother...

Its confusing.
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Why are posters all up the butt of Republicans? Not every gun owner is a Republican.

If you enter a conversation with the attitude that you can not be reasoned with, you won't even try to be reasonable. So don't blame others because they don't believe like you do.

I get the idea that you think all Democrats are anti-gun, anti-christ and anti Republican. How very sad when we forget to look at a person and not a political party.

I for one think a jerk comes from all political parties and we need to deal with people on a one on one basis, not what we think they are.
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The purpose of control is take guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens. Criminals will always find a way to get their guns. Drugs are illegal in all 50 states, we have strict drug laws......yet we still have a drug epidemic in this country.

states with the strictest gun laws have the most violent crimes. So tell me again about gun control? Assault weapons are banned in California. But they are all over this state, in the hands of criminals.

FWIW I’m not pro-gun. I don’t own any guns.
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worried in cali
yes, that is the purpose of gun control legislation. It's just a very stringent vetting process, and no automatic weapons---you don't need an automatic weapon to take out a deer.
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Gun Control won’t take guns out of the hands of criminals & mentally ill people. There are already too many guns on the street in this country.
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smeshque,
yes, evil is a matter of heart. However, the NRA has people convinced that gun control is a terrible thing. Why is it a terrible thing? How many more innocent men, women, and yes, children have to massacred before we adopt sensible gun control laws. And if it makes you feel any better, then yes by all means let's ban spoons and forks because a mass murder can take out as many innocent victims just as quickly with a spoon and fork as he/she could with a gun. right?
I know this post will get no likes but I'm not here to be liked, if I wanted to be liked I'd be talking about the virtues of Lou Dobbs, Fox news, and the local church picnic next Sunday.
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Good idea. Sadly, if they don't have access to a weapon, they will get it if they are determined to do harm to anyone. But it doesn't hurt to be fully aware of the situation.
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I hear vegetarians are super, especially on the BBQ. 😁

No offense intended, I couldn't help myself, this is getting heated and I thought about BBQ.
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Isthis, I think you'll find that the skill most highly valued and assiduously cultivated throughout the news media is the ability to start a fight in an empty room.

It's nothing new, of course, but either it really is getting worse or I'm getting too old.
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Just setting the facts straight, Tacy.

”...a narcotic” could be a whole lot of things. Even Xanax. And, “may have” isn’t “was”.
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Countrymouse - your reply regarding the man attempting to insult you by calling you a “Vegetarian” is too funny.

It reminds me of a movie quote (of course - what doesn’t?)

Its from the movie Siege. To set it up - this is a Caucasian America Army Colonel in charge of detaining all the Muslim men in New York, speaking to Denzel, an African-American FBI agent:

Colonel Hardwick - “Don't get in my face, Hubbard. I might decide you're an Ethiopian”.
Anthony Hubbard:
“And you're just stupid enough to think that's an insult.”
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The so called "tag safety" firearm freqflyer mentioned that requires a bio or mechanical tag to fire was completely rejected when evaluated by military and law enforcement groups because:
(1) it does not prevent the firearm from being turned on its owner/user (soldier, LEO) in close quarters;
(2) firearms failed to fire from 5-40% of the time when the rightful user pulled the trigger; and
(3) the badly performing technology is expensive - to the tune of thousands of dollars for each weapon, turning a $1000 firearm into a $10,000 firearm.

When your life and the lives of your fellow LEOs, soldiers, and/or family are on the line, no one wants a firearm that cannot be relied upon.

The NRA has addressed the bio/mech tag safety as a firearm safety concern; "fair potential for target shooting but not recommended for self-defense purposes". The NRA recommendation is actually "softer" than the one issued by military and law enforcement groups so why aren't those groups being "blamed" for this non-functional bit of technology not being put into production?
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Rainmom, this is from the Detroit Free Press, "Early news reports said the suspect, whose name was not released, may have been under the influence of a narcotic. ". Pain pills was on the radio.

It is really amazing how defensive you get when people mention pain pills.
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Rainmom, tacy022 clarified that she heard this info on the radio.

I thank you for that update. I couldn't find anything online regarding the incident.

Situations like this help me to understand that I should not believe everything I hear that is being broadcast by the news. Jumping to conclusions seems to be their daily exercise.
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Rainmom, the wronger they are, the funnier it is.

A man once took exception to my noticing that he had repeatedly nudged another car out of his way while parking - it had been so flagrant I couldn't believe he hadn't done any damage (though actually he hadn't, not visibly). He abused me roundly and finished off with " - and I bet you're a vegetarian!"

I don't know whether he meant to imply that I was a muesli-eating Guardian-reading CND hippy or a fan of Hitler. People just dish out labels according to their approval or disapproval of what they already think the other person is like.
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From The Royal Oak Tribune, dated June 5th, 2019:

“Authorities say it will take up to six weeks to get results from a toxicology test to determine whether Campbell had any substances in system that may have played a role in his death and the shooting.”

As it’s only been four days since the incident I fail to understand how anyone can state that the man was “under the influence of pain pills”.
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Tacy022, thank you for clarifying what happened.

It happens far to often. Thankfully no one was injured by him.
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Isthisreallyreal, the guy was a convicted felon who wasnt supposed to have a weapon and was under the influence of pain pills. Fired off two rounds, and killed himself. It didnt make our local news, I heard about it on the Detroit Alt Rock station. There were no hostages, nothing.
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Oh sure, Countrymouse!

Kinda like “Call me what you will - just don’t call me late for dinner”?!?

... but to be lumped in with Midwestern Bible Thumpers, who voted for that embarrassment currently in the Whitehouse - or more likely tweeting from the 18th green? Now that’s just mean!!!

*No offense to my pistol packin’ sisters in the Bible Belt intended.
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While Captain - may God be guiding his steps - was active on the forum I was startled to receive an email addressed to "Dear Survivalist."

In a world of algorithms there's no point minding the occasional false assumption that might come our way.
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So sorry to see that GA’s return to AC has been turned into a debate. She’s been such a valuable contributor before and went through the loss of a beloved father this past year. Hope this hasn’t made her rethink returning
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So what actually happened in this incident?

One person having a melt down doesn't make the national news, an active shooter still does. So I am curious what exactly happened.
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