What can I do about my parent's dirty house when they refuse to let me clean?
Both of my parents are in need of care. My mother, who has been unstable for years, had a traumatic brain injury 2 years ago. She is 81. My father, who has functioned as a much younger person, is 84. He had major back surgery in November and has just had a stroke. My major concern is the state of their house which is almost two hundred years old and very large. It is filled with boxes and gets worse each day. My other siblings become angry when I mention it although they agree that the house is in bad shape. It appears to be an illness with my mother. They are in a rural area but the EMTs expressed concern when they came to transport my father to the hospital. I am the child that lives closest to them and I want to clean up the house. My mother fights me every step of the way. This is not how she kept a house when I was a child. Two of my siblings tell me not to "cross her" but I do not want my father to return to such an unsafe environment after rehab. My parents are not wealthy but they have plenty of resources. What can I do to help this situation? Do EMTs report situations such as this to social services?
This sounds like hoarding. My mom did it and it can be a nightmare. It is a symptom of illness and there are others on this site that can answer more directly on that.
As far as cleaning up the house all you can do is tell your siblings that she and your dad both are sick and this has to happen. The longer you wait the worse it is. My mom had boxes and piles of stuff to the ceiling. The basement was stuffed full and most of the boxed items were junk. She had jars of plastic water bottle caps safe on the high shelves and precious family stuff on the floor where they got wet.
Try to move the stuff out of there when she isn't there. Tell her you're putting it in storage and it all is safe and sound, but it can't be in the house anymore.
My mom was a beast about it and I wasted a lot of time actually trying to listen to her. She made it a lot worse with her irrational hoarding and dementia behavior and I was trying to operate on her level instead of operating from a position that she was absolutely not able to make any more decisions on her own behalf and I had to step up. Sucks, but there it is.
There is a happy ending! mom loves what we did with her house. It's all fixed up, and she knows that her stuff is safe. I saved the good stuff, showed her those and she was satisfied.
Less stuff with set you free!
I had the luxury of no siblings so I didn't have that to deal with and you have my respect there. Maybe it's time for them to come and get their childhood stuff? Is any of it theirs or is it all just recent aquisitions?
If you can't convince your siblings to get it together, some other folks on the site will be able to advise you on getting an attorney simply to protect your parents from the consequences of their actions and their childrens' inactions. It really gets in the way of everybody's quality of life to have to wade through s*** to see your parents. Take video and show your siblings.
Good Luck, you can do it!
Bobbie
Larry
(1) Tell her that your father cannot come home to all that dust and clutter. Who knows? If she loves your dad as much as I think she does, she might help out with the cleaning and probably call your siblings to pitch in too.
(2) I'm sure there are precious memories stored all over that house, so I wouldn't get rid of "stuff" without her knowledge and consent unless it poses a health or fire hazard. Every now and again, together with your mom, slowly go through each room to see what items she can do without and donate to agencies helping the needy (e.g., Salvation Army). A well-advertised garage sale might be another option. Items will disappear from the front lawn so fast that she won't be able to change her mind. Also, helping her understand that her treasures will be put to good use by others less fortunate will pave the way to the ultimate goal: clean the house.
(3) If your emotions are taking the best of you while trying to reach a compromise with your mom, stop. There's a method to her so-called hoarding or madness that you haven't figured out yet, so try another time. Ask your siblings for support, gently reminding them that living farther away doesn't exempt them from giving a hand on family issues that directly or indirectly affect them as well. After all, you're not the only child.
(4) This kind of stress, whether external or internal, should never be an option for anyone unless there's light at the end of the tunnel. For the moment, treat it like a dog would: if you can't eat it or play with it, pee on it and walk away. No doubt you have better and much more important things to do. ... And don't forget to laugh.
Good luck my friend, and let us know how it goes.
-- ED
its amazing how thier mind works and not seein that it needs clean . bad enough that we have to do the dirty job and get growled at .
just gotta put ur foot down and say hey it needs clean or youre going to be in big trouble with social worker .
yes gotta take the bull by the horn !
i need to clean my own house , ahhh i have no enegry anymore . im just tired and feeling lazy , maybe ill have my daughters come clean haha .
Thing is my mom has been approved for Medical and I know DPSS will be sending someone out to check on the welfare of my mom to see if the house is safe enough for her to remain there. Right now if they go through that house I'm sure they will deam it unsafe, because it's so dirty.
So my question is does anyone know how that works, will they give my sister's family a time to clean, and then OK it for my mom to have in home care continue there? or will they remove her.
The lady next door to my mom, who is also sick and was being taken care of by her step-son, well the ambulance came in and took her away just before Christmas. The word was that she was sitting in urine, and fecies (forgive my spelling), and they have not brought her back yet. Her step-son enlisted the help of some neighbors who cleaned really well, but by the time they came back out it had been destroyed all over again. That poor lady I'm sure wants to come home, and her step-son is a drunk, and I've heard that she want's to get rid of him and then she'll go back. Killer is that was her and her husbands home, the step-son moved in after his father died, and now the owner of the house can't even come back. That's kind of cold to me.
So if DPSS removes my mom, I really think it might be a plus for my sister's family to be "ORDERED" to clean it up, God knows they've been on a permanent vacation from cleaning 20 years or so. But I'm afraid they would deliberately not clean and I would hate my mom not be able to return to her OWN HOME and my sister and her family remain.
Information only the home is in my moms trust, and if something happens to her it automatically goes to myself and my sister.
So if anyone has info on this please let me know.
Also RLP, how are things going with your parents home. What did you decide to do.
Norene
oh i loved that house ,makes me wanna move right on in .hahaha .
wish we all caregivers could jump right in and clean that house up for them .
i need to do mine uhhhh ..
I tried to get them to come clean with me while my mother was at the hospital, but got no help from anyone but my daughter and a little from the niece who lives with her. What can I do????
Glad to hear the social worker was helpful! Any good tips you can pass on to the rest of us, to help us communicate with our parents on topics like this? I know Mom feels like the "you're my child and you're telling me to do-----fill in the blank" when we talk to her about it. She seems to take great offense to anyone offering to do any cleaning up (haven't even tried for a cleaning OUT suggestion yet). Would be happy with any suggestions!! :o)
Thanks!