Dementia and schitzophrenia similarities.

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the gist of this article is eerily implying that dementia exists sometimes from a young age and is rarely ever treated effectively or cured . in fact for over 80 years the terms dementia and schitzo were interchangeable . my mother certainly suffered from bipolar all her life and in late stage dementia a schitzo disorder reared up complete with paranoid delusions and hallucinations .
so if you wonder if your demented elder has always been nuts , id say probably ..
relax and enjoy the ride -- its largely hereditary..


Relax and enjoy the ride -- you can't do anything about it whether it is hereditary or not.

My husband had paranoid delusion and hallucinations early in his dementia journey, as do many persons with Lewy Body Dementia. Often hallucinations are the first clue to family that something is wrong. No one suggested a schizo disorder, and there was NO previous suggestion of such a mental illness.

No doubt that people with mental disorders develop dementia such as people without mental disorders do. And some dementia symptoms are similar to symptoms of other disorders. After all, they are all related to a malfunctioning in the brain.

I don't think Coy was always nuts. I don't think that my mother was always nuts. As I read about some of the people being cared for by members here, ya, it sounds like some of them did have mental disorders from an early age.

Mental illness is often not treated effectively and seldom cured. There are many frontiers in medical science yet to be crossed.
"so if you wonder if your demented elder has always been nuts , id say probably .."

i've said all along, i see very few really 'new' behaviors in my mother, just more of the same, on steroids.

if you have some free time to do research cap'n, U might want to check out the new research linking gum disease, bad oral hygiene, and dementia, high cholesterol, heart disease and prostate cancer. a dentist told me about it this week, i just started looking into it myself. they're saying bacteria gets released into the blood stream. plaque formations in the arteries then cause heart problems, hi cholesterol, and if this travels to the brain, dementia. my mother has gum disease, refuses to take care of it properly, as usual it's all about the money. one of our latest fire drills was about 3K in dental work to fix a tooth that was rotting away. ironically if she just spent a few bucks to have her teeth cleaned every six months this probably would not have happened. fascinating that it may be causing her dementia. i called her gum dentist this week, they told me she stopped going for treatment in 2008. the dementia surfaced big time 2012. next week's project is to get her back to her dentist for regular treatments, whether she likes it or not.
Is the plaque on the teeth the same stuff as plaque in the arteries? That would be really scary...
Or the plaques that form in the brain?
Sometimes I wonder if Mad Cow has affected some people. Sure they recall the tainted beef, but there has to be some of it that got eaten by unsuspecting consumers. Gotta wonder....
people in the the uk dont have to worry about mad cow , turns out they were eating horse meat all along . ( chuckle )
im with dusty on her observations of dementia . my mom and aunt showed exascerbated levels of thoughts and behavior that was always irrational .
their dad was bats*it crazy . talked incessantly for as long as i knew him , even when everyone had left the room .
No, the plaques are composed of all sorts of gunge - sticky sugars on your teeth, lipids in your blood, abnormal proteins in the brain. Ain't we got fun!

Pam I wonder about CJD, too; especially in the case of my lovely friend's lovely husband, who was not only diagnosed with every form of dementia going but also, in his young adulthood, was a dairy farmer.

I don't want to fuel any conspiracy theories, and I have zero support for this from any of my scientifically trained loved ones, but I suspect that eating burgers had sod all to do with it, and that over-liberal use of insecticides and pesticides a heck of a lot more. I notice they've changed an awful lot of formulae since the eighties.
And nay, Captain, I don't find that remotely amusing.
i dont think dementia is on the rise , only being isolated and better understood .
only in the last few years has it been understood to be a terminal condition .
both of my female relatives had / have a diagnosic printout that shows disease in every organ , why would the brain be in perfect order in the presence of all this mayhem ? ie ; renal failure , poor liver function , coronary disease , arthritis , diabetes mellitis , copd , etc ..
why would a 55 yr old man ( myself ) with stage 3 liver fibrosis drink a beer anyway ?
my dad died at 72 after a lifetime of clean living and in fact preserving himself for an imagined afterlife . im inevitably going to die but im going to have lived first ..
The short answer is sometimes, but not always. MIL has been crazy as a rat in a drainpipe her entire life, and now that she's got dementia, she's crazy as a hundred rats in a drainpipe. Rats that have been up all night smoking crystal meth.

Her mother had schizophrenia, which she got, according to MIL, from being hit by a taxi while crossing a street in London.

MIL refused to believe me when I told her that getting mowed down by a taxi might give a person a traumatic brain injury with symptoms that mimic schizophrenia, but it doesn't cause schizophrenia. Given that there's lots of bipolar disease and other kinds of mental illness in her family, it seems highly likely that MIL's mother was already ill when the taxi hit her.

My father had Alzheimer's and HIS mother was bipolar. Dad was always nervous and depressed, as well as being a high functioning alcoholic but he didn't start showing symptoms of dementia until he was almost 80. None of his siblings developed dementia, as far as I know, although one brother was very peculiar. However, his mental issues could have come from being on a troop ship that was blown up in the Pacific during WWII. Floating in the ocean for four days while clinging to a piece of wreckage would tend to make anybody a little nuts.

I think dementia has lots of different causes, and there's no reason why someone couldn't have a mental illness that gets worse with age, and then develop some form of dementia.


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