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My mom is way too high needs for day care, but I wish there was something for her to stimulate her mind and provide a social outlet. It would be great if she could be fed her meals and allowed to nap most of the day but still be able to take part in any activities. And having access to the big soaker tub and the hair salon and other services would be wonderful too.
And then when she would be getting picked up in the afternoon all the families with a loved one with sundowners could be getting them dropped off for the night.
I know, dream on.

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Doesn't this all sound like a five star resort service anyway? Forget the nursing homes. I'm going to the jacuzzi!
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Ah, and there is mall security. The senior could be fitted with a special gps locator, so if they tried to leave the mall, security could re-direct them! And, they could carry little bitty coins to pay for their purchases ( sort of a pre-purchse that had to be approved by the caregiver when brought out to the car, sneaking back any unapproved pkgs.).
This is a good plan for the more functional elderly.
All I would be wanting is a place to lie down.
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Back in the 80's and 90's it was popular to drop your teens off at the mall, now you want us to drop off our seniors?
Lets see, it is climate controlled, there is mall walking for exercise, the food court for meals, lots of handicapped accessible washrooms, people watching for entertainment, even piped in music. And best of all it doesn't cost anything unless you go on a shopping spree...Sendme, I think you are on to something!
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Here I am, we will just re-name Starbucks as the new daycare center and nursing home, drop off your mom/dad, shop at Vons. Give them a kindle for christmas and set them down. With a little planning, this is free to sit here.
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Maybe we all should just start dropping in to our neighbor's homes, supporting each other's lives. I could do that as long as I have something to give that they need.

As for donald, they should add an extra choice on the ballot: A vote of no confidence for all the candidates.
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However, knowing my limitations, I am never going to be a part of this idea. It seems great for others and could be a worthy endeavor.
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Saw Riverspring at night, drop in has everything. If there is a waiting list....the drop-in part should be next door and much smaller.

Since the visitor/guest/client would be short term, the grouping maybe should be small rooms just outside a huge dayroom. People will get lost. The more separate the rooms, the more 24 hr. Staff required?
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Glad, I meant you could be in the planning, design, administration, not the daily hands on.
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Yeah, donald can be the first client, we can set him straight, get him fixed up again, maybe he can run for office?
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Send, no for me too much direct hands on after four years of 24/7. Franchise opportunities? Don't know at all about that, will think on it though. And financial backing? HEY, DONALD! You listening?
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Glad, thanks for joining in! As this thread evolved, I kept thinking about the perfect job for you in this, and now here you are! Time to make your own job and start a elder spa.
What if it was for the client and their family caregiver? Client in dayroom activities and family caregiver in the gym and spa.
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FF, sign me up, I want a job like yours, that is where my work experience is, planning. Where do I look for work like that. Ideally, with my caregiving experience and planning working for the developer of senior facilities would be perfect!

The American Planning Association has started an effort to try to meet the needs of us boomers, with affordability a primary concern, they know it is going to be a problem with so many of us aging, and they want to figure out how to make these facilities incorporated into neighborhoods and communities.
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Send, there you go!

In New York City there is a drop in type facility for overnight, of course there is a day program as well. Evidently the wait list is extensive to get a slot. Google, Riverspring at night in New York. First in the country of this sort of facility. Imagine caregivers could get a night off to go to dinner with friends, or their spouse, or just stay home and watch a show or two that we want to watch and at a comfortable volume.

I've also thought about a secure patio home type facility. A grouping of six, eight, ten tiny homes, with onsite caregivers. Elderly could mingle with each other, nap, watch a movie, whatever. They go back to their tiny home. How many to a tiny home? Probably two. And those tiny home kits relatively cheap, but infrastructure would push costs up, but not to the point of a large facility.
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Oops, guess there isn't going to be a baby boomer population either, so that's out.
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I did not do that, the auto-correct as a function of the text input interface caused the post to be duplicated. Even if my husband is wrong, or used the wrong words, doesn't it sound like a good explanation? Ha, ha, he now denies that hadxanything to do with it. I deny tgat those are even valid words he made up.
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Guess we will have to change the terminology and leave out the words 'drop-in'.
See, that is why we need everyone's input, to clarify everything before we make a big mistake.
The Senior Napping Spa?
Ok, what do we call it?
Thanks for your input, Gershen.
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Guess we will have to change the terminology and leave out the words 'drop-in'.
See, that is why we need everyone's input, to clarify everything before we make a big mistake.
The Senior Napping Spa?
Ok, what do we call it?
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Ok, no dropping the clients. For sure!
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For staff, we could form a co-op of volunteer caregivers, in exchange for free respite for their loved one. Hmmmn, a burnt out caregiver, taking on three instead of one? What is wrong with that picture? Hmmmmmmmn.
Nonetheless, volunteers will be needed.
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My head, my butt, just don't drop me.....
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Multi-millions, yes, dream big, then pare it down if on a small budget.
I once had a similar idea in which someone with the investor contact offered to help bring it to fruition, but the idea was for a smaller, boarding home type estate for special needs housing, and people have done that. My feelings with the special needs persons is to keep them in homes, not an institution.

For a drop-in Spa for the elderly, maybe a block of smaller homes would work instead of a hotel.
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Excellent thoughts, FF. Can we make it a non-profit organization?
A far out resort, or a close-in near stores, shopping would be the choices.
Can it be near in-n-out?
I am liking the Rt. 66 resort idea, but would like to kick it up to a four-five star place without the price.
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Darn, all our profits went to the insurance company, how unusual is that? Lol.
Guess we could apply for a chapter 13, and restructure the business.
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We would be taking good care of our friends.
Why are you worried about your head, Gershun?
With incompetence, we could just as well drop you on your azz.
Maybe the spa should only take in the self-ambulatory, but that won't work.
Where are the experts in insurance???? We would have to hire only the best caregivers. But accidents do happen, so hike up the insurance coverage, and only allow specialists to transport the client.
What is wrong with your head, again?
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There are investors out there, it's just finding them. Commercial lending banks are a good start for networking to get the idea floating around.... hey, I saw some raw land out on Route #66, looks like a good location for a day/night elder reprise, do you know of any investors who would like to go in that direction?

I am in commercial real estate and one of our clients are investors who bought some raw land last year, now they are throwing around an idea of a hotel.... I mentioned the need for more rehab/nursing homes, and that was a light bulb moment for them.... we recently had a meeting with the CEO and COO of a company that builds and operates such facilities. The demographics are good as the facility where my Mom resides has a waiting list. Hope this is a good match.

Pre-existing hotel/motels sounds like a good idea, but are very hard to find. Most are priced in the multi-millions. Rarely do you see a For Sale in front of a Holiday Inn Express. These are sold behind the scenes. Go to the internet and type in LoopNet Hotels to get price ideas. Hey, even a nice B&B might work if it has enough bedrooms.
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I volunteer to be the first drop-in. Just don't drop me on my head.
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When the donald loses the election, he might want to invest. Doesn't he own hotels already? He could do another serta/sheep commercial about hotel bedding. He could play the elderly red-faced alcoholic with dementia, needing a night at the caregiver spa.
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Or, many small investors. An interested baby boomer population concerned about their own parents, or themselves.
A pre-existing hotel/motel with several great rooms (community activities), a kitchen, maybe one floor, a spread out resort in the desert, or nearer towns that have a huge population of retired persons.
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It never hurts to dream, unless it becomes a nightmare.
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One would need investors with deep pockets. New construction depending on location and the size of the building could be in the double digit millions. Lot of red tape to overcome. Zoning issues. Designs. Permits. Licenses.

Or if one is lucky enough to find an already free standing building that could be easily converted to a small motel or dorm situation, heating and A/C hookups plus plumbing. Again zoning issues, permits, licenses.
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