Is POA and Medical POA the same thing
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My mother is in her right mind and have no idea how a paralegal gave my moms home (unpaid) to my sister and myself without us knowing. Its not so much about moms home but more about why a professional paralegal would charge my mom without doing deed search. Something is not right. And since her bank is paying taxes and homeowners ins why do I get a bill for moms unpaid mortgage taxes?
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Tip is keep all the documents together in a binder along with medication list if there are any food restrictions and medical algeries and any final plans/ arrangements .
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Are there links to these documents to print out? Are these documents state specific?
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My father drew up his DPOA papers in Missouri, where he was living. When his health begin to fail my siblings decided to move him closer to us, in another state. Is his DPOA for financial and health valid in Illinois?
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I want to know if our POA is valid cuz I had them done in March but got them notarized 7/7/17? It was a last minute decision on my mom's part
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is guardianship available in uk
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I am needing to start the DPOA process due to my mother's dementia. There are so many comments and opinions on here that it's confusing. Where do I go to start this process? She is on a limited income. Is there some way she can get this started without paying a fortune?
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Wouldn't the Five Wishes cover this(good in 48 States) ? One copy to the person in charge of the decisions, one with your doctor and one kept on hand for paramedics or hospital.
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Four years ago, the administrator of my husband's rehab center suggested that I see an elder law attorney. That was the best advice I received regarding both him and me. Over the last few years, I have done all of what you have suggested and it has made for peace of mind!
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Great article. Thanks for the info, you made it easy to understand. BTW, if anyone needs to fill out a HIPAA Authorization for Use and Disclosure form, I found a blank form in this link http://goo.gl/CXP2qh. This site PDFfiller also has some tutorials how to fill it out and a few related Insurance forms that you might find useful.
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If a Dentist office tells you that they can not discuss your elderly mother's care about her treatment with you because of HIPPA even though they took your money for payment and discussed it in the past but never mentioned Hippa form and you are listed as emergency contact and your mother gave permission by making you power of attorney, isn't that Dentist office full of it? Crap that is.
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My mother never signed a health care proxy and when she was admitted to a geriatric psyche ward last year, I, her only daughter, had no right to make medical decisions for her. The state took over, appointing a state attorney who quite frankly was incompetent and delayed a procedure that I had originally agreed to. It took at least two weeks to get her out of that facility and that was only after I threatened to sue the hospital if she became 'institutionalized'. Apparently, that word evoked in them the fact that I may have talked to an attorney.

At any rate, once she was out and somewhat mentally able to sign the health care proxy, we got one immediately.

Do not put this off. Impress upon your parents, esp those who are of a later generation than the baby boomer generation, that it is vitally important they appoint someone as their health care proxy. Impress upon them that the STATE will take over and may do procedures they or you would never want!
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I am listed next in line after my dad to make health care decisions for my mom should she not be able to do so. Last year we had a crisis lasting many months where my dad was not very understanding about her condition and where I had to talk to the doctors. My mom is alert now. Who could I contact to help make these matters clearer and act in my mom's best interest?
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In California I was unable to place my wife in licensed memory daycare without a power of attorney. This is a critical document and needs to be secured before the patient is too ill to complete a legal POA. The alternative is an expensive trip to court to secure a conservatorship.
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In the State of New Jersey, the next of kin automatically inherits, a Will just complicates things. Of course, if Real Estate is involved and there is someone they are cohabitating with, it becomes complicated because when you try to get a Court Order to remove them, you will get slammed with a palimony suit.
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If the elder person has not disbursed their assets before now, just give it up and sign them over to the nursing home. Anything left over will be disbursed to you. You are just setting yourselves up for a ton of problems trying to "manage" the situation.
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You're correct, Igloo. I forgot about Hospice.
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If my Mom has a legal Guardianship setup for her Assets and Finances - why are they sending me her past due bills to pay. They were awarded byt eh Judge in July of this year. I was told that I am not legally responsible for any of these bills since they are in her name and the Guardians now? Is this correct?

Anne in Texas
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You will have to be appointed guardian ,been going through this for a yr,good luck....
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N1 - Your comments reinforce why it is so very, very important to have the discussion of death in advance. The visual of a family member going peacefully with loving family in their home amidst their beloved home is not reality for most of us and our elderly parents.

Advance directives are important to discuss and do - many LTC/NH require that one be on file within 30 days of the residents admissions.If you are admitted into the hospital for many procedures you will need to have one done. You don't want to have to do this as your loved one is being wheeled off to anthesthia, or your standing under the bad lighting of the ER signing off a stack of papers.

An AD can be changed but it really needs to be discussed & done.Personally I also think you should discuss what hospice is too.
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There are more than three suggestions in your above reference as documents that are needed. Advanced Directive, Medicare/Medicaid cards and their supplements such as Medigap, Addtional Insurance to cover the 20% that Medicare won't cover, and of course the Will. Notice that I said, Will , not "Living Will". Have you ever seen an ER Physician/Nurse actually READ the Living Will? Most living wills are ambiguous, unless it has a specific DNR clause. In many cases, Living Will means "kill me". Unless the L.W. is written with a complete directive that says use all cautionary and pre-cautionary measures to sustain the life of the patient with regard to ultimate and complete health, the L.W. is taken as
way of eliminating procedures and medications to help the patient live. I've seen it with my own eyes. If you want to say bye-bye, sign a Living Will.
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no question about it- i visited mom yesterday- she is so thin- but knew me-
we snuggled in bed together-kisses- hugs- and crying- because this isnt right-
when i called the home this morning and asked how much she weighed-i was told i couldnt be told since i was not authorized- unbelievable - it has taken me over 4 hours to finally get her find out where i can reach her doctor- the nh gave me the name of his office- but he hasnt been working there for years-
unbelievable!!!somehow after a lot of digging, and calls, i got someone to page him and they left my #- and amazingly he called me back- unfortunately ,he said, he
understands how terrible this blocking of info is,but id have to speakwith my brother and the dr said he would talk with him again- said he felt compromised- but didnt see
how keeping me p to date would impede moms health-and of course it wouldnt
im just amazed that someone- a brother- would actually feel so much hate and anger
as he does, to actualy forbid me any info about my mother- let alone talk to me-
where was he for 13 yrs? besides, mom knows that something isnt right since i am not availible- she knows she is in a situation
but has always felt she didnt knowwaht to do-
im so angry- spent almost 6 hours today just trying to get info or for someone to help
to get me info-
this is unreal- like a twilight zone program-except its real- and i am limited as far as options go.
then, y 15 yr old dog,dasha, started limping- taking her to the vet tomorrow-
and to top off the day, the bank called and said they wanted to tell me my card was compromised-someone had the # and was trying to use it-
well, i think the rest of my nite should be quiet- usually things come in 3s=
but who knows- these days everything seems so strange.thanks for listening-
love to u ,k
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Mom will not appoint a medical POA. She has a living will which she thinks is enough. There is no talking to her. Will be my brother's problem since he is in charge of everything. But I just have the feeling this could be a train wreck at some point.
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if i was named as medical POA,
but later taken off- it was done and i wasnt even aware of this change-
i wasnt told,notified,questioned,proven unfit,
mom did not want me off since i took care of her the past 10 + years,
when i explained what that means-mo longer on the POA,she didnt understand that
was what she had agreed to-
she has dementia=-but at that time she knew it was important i am involved amedically-i know her history-my brother had financial poa- doesnt in the same state-but took advantage of one of our many arguments-and i believe was able to
have her take my name off-i have not seen this new POA,i have the one that states my name-and i have a statement from her saying she wants me included-with 2 other names of people who were there when mom and i were talking about it-
does all of that not matter?
why would one person have to prove the other is not capable to be poa-
and yet they can take someones name off without any kind of proof of why they should be the new poa-?
i dont understand
i have an appt with an elder lawyer nextweek-
this is only 1 of the many problems i have-unfortunately-
if mom was told about this- it is definately not what she would want.
its only me and my brother-yet he somehow felt he had the right to emptyout my moms apt-whichis very close to my house-he is 4 hours away-an apartment where we grew up in-55 years she lived there-yet he cleaned out the house-i have no idea where
her things are or if they are sold- it was an 8 room apartment-and he wont speak or any calls-
so it seems to me that if this is not illegal ,not to mention morally wrong, than i might
as well just say my goodbyes now- because it will only get worse-and this is something she would get very upset about.
i just disgusted- i may be acting very selfish- but my god- she is y mom too-
i lived there too- why do we as humans get so stupid and nasty when it comes to
a time where we need to help and not hurt
i hate this-isnt there any commom sense to all this?
power ,money, controll- is it all about those things?
i am just overwhelmed and exhausted-
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I like you Igloo.
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J&D if she has been diagnosed with ALz and it is recorded in her health history at the MD's office, you really can't do it as she is not competent. If you do and your family is not all kumbaya on agreement on her care then you can be challenged on it. Sadly at this point, you need to see an elder care attorney.

HM, I think POA's are all private matters so there is no legal site like the county court house to see these. However, you can find out property ownership on land & houses, marriage, divorce & some prenup's through the county or parish clerk's office. Guardianship or conservatorship is recorded as you have to go before a judge on these so you can get a copy of the hearing.

If someone was appointed as DPOA that is between them, whomever named them and the second/alternate. The POA doesn't have to show you squat if they don't want to. There is a reason they were chosen and not you. Same goes for whomever was named executor of the estate when they die. If you all can be nice and civil about it, I'm sure you could get a copy and have a meeting to review finances and the careplans with whomever is the POA. This should all be about what is the best for "mom, dad or uncle paulie".

I've been executrix as well as DPOA, it can be a big responsibility and there is no way everybody is going to be happy with decisions made. If you challenge it, be prepared to pay for it both financially and emotionally. Keep in mind the POA has the ability to use "mom's" $$ to fight any challenges, you have to use your own $.
IMHO it's best to be play nice with the POA (even if you have to bite your tongue) and work with them.
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My wife has Alzheimers. She is incompentent. Can I still get a POA?
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are any of these documents recorded offically, so that if a family member who
wants to see one or all of these signed papers, will be able to look at it?
if a family member refuses to show you the POA for example, is there anywhere
to find it?to make sure it says exactly who is to control care? and whatever else is involved?
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Be careful about some Living Wills. The papers from the auto legal sites or even the Legal documents from stores such as Staples, do not word the document so that a person who wishes to receive full treatment to save his/her life will receive treatment. You have to check the correct box. It is very confusing. If an hospital employee sees the doc, and assumes that it means to not give extraordinary measures to keep patient alive, then they may treat it almost like a DNR.
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