Can a nursing home put a person out on the streets, with behavior problems, if no facility will take them?

Asked by cindywoods1  |  Jan 17, 2012

my mother is being discharged soon for disobeying nursing home rules due to behavior problems, can they put her on the streets if no facility will take her

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pt34

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Jan 23, 2012

I am having the same problem with my father, very bad behavior. I can't handle his health problems at home. I was told they would try to transfer him if it gets too bad. Don't see how that solves the problem.

 
 

EvaLynnPearl

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Jan 23, 2012

A few years back, my husband and I hired a wonderful Health Care Advocate who has the powers to do great miracles for my elderly mother. If you are interested in finding out what can and can't be done to help you in this matter, I would highly recommend you contact her at heal@healthcarewhisperer.com. Please tell Hari that Eva Lynn Pearl referred you to her. She charges a small start up fee but she is well worth more than what she is paid. Hari is a wonderful and outstanding person and professional who will be happy to help you. I hope this information helps you. I wish you the best of luck.

 
 

Jam

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Jan 23, 2012

In my experience, 25 yr in EMS, I found that when a patient would get out of control, the NH would call to have them transferred to the local hospital because they just didn't want to deal with them. And would they get mad when nothing physical was found and the patient was sent right back! Most times the NH will call for orders for something to sedate the patient with.....they don't want their "apple cart" upset. The ratio of care giver to patient is horrendous and if there is one or two that need to be controlled it takes away from the whole, so they don't want that. If there is a facility nearby that deals with behavioral problems....my hospital has a Behavioral Unit.....then that is what I would look into. Your parents' behavior may be regulated with medication, making them much more compliant with the NH, and making everyone happy. Ask the NH what you can assist with and ask them for their recommendations that will allow your parent to stay with them. They have every right to decide who stays and who doesn't. I hope this helps a little.

 
 

BridgetW

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Jan 23, 2012

There are State rules that must be followed. I know in Indiana the facility must give you thirty days and MUST try to locate another facility for you. I would contact your local Area on Aging and request help from an advocate or help to find you a local advocate. You can also contact you State Omnibudisman (sp). They are a free advocate to make sure the facilities are following the rules and should help you with this issue. Sounds like your mother need medical attention and no kicked out of the facility.
Blessings,
Bridget

 
 

Hopeful2011

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Jan 23, 2012

I would look over your contract that you made with your facility and adhere to what it says. Our CA contract says that 30 day notice is given if there is a problem and they will do all possible to assure that my mother has a place to stay. I thought Bridget's advice was excellent.

 
 

Aleeta

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Jan 23, 2012

The article on finding & using a health care advocate

 
 

anonymous101100

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Jan 23, 2012

So sorry to hear. We put my Mom on depakote when her behavior started and its a miracle. At first they sleep alot but after a few weeks they dont, and they are calm without being sedated. Daycares give 2 week notices and usually once on the medication they keep them, its managable. Your Mom doesnt want to be aggitated any more than you want her to be so get to a good neurologist and if you like the NH she is in, talk to them about giving you time to adjust her meds. Change is not good for dementia patients especially. In reality inside she is confused, angry, sad and scared . She needs lots of reassurance and medication help, good luck.

 
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