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I care for my Dad's girlfriend who use to live with us but Alzheimers and behavorial issues caused me to put her in a nursing home. Before things got to a point of no return I had her appointment me as her POA and HCP...I am her guardian. Her family who does not really bother with her called her at the nursing home. Because one of her behavorial issues is constant crying they just assume she is unhappy. They want to take her to live with them. I don't think it is a good ideal due to the house hold having small children and a roommate who lives with them. The noise and confusion would send her into mass confusion. Do I have the right to say no? I sugguested they start seeing her on a regular basis and then I would consider weekend stay overs. Do you think they can fight me on this?
NancyH
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Jan 15, 2012
I would think they'd have to go to court or something to undo what has been done right? Are they willing to go that far do you think? Is it about money? If she has any money at all, are they worried that the nursing home is eating it up? I think you are absolutely right about what you suggested, that they start seeing her on a regular basis and go from there. There is a reason that this woman didn't have a problem making you the POA etc instead of her family.
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jeannegibbs
Your plan that they visit her regularly first makes a lot of sense.
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CallMeIshmael
I lean towards "Sly and the Family Stone" when they said "Blood's thicker than the mud" in the song "Family Affair". IOW, exactly why are you the POA? In our society boyfriends and girlfriends come and go all the time. And you are "just" the daughter of her boyfriend.
You didn't really elaborate on how this came about but I wonder if the family was fully informed of the deterioration of her condition at the time you say that "I had her appoint me as the the POA." What I'm thinking is that maybe her family assumed she was fine as long as she was healthy and living with her "boyfriend", but actually would have "bothered with her" if they had known she really needed it.
You know the actual truth of the situation, of course, but if it turns out to be true that they would have cared and taken action if informed, then that implies that you have a "stealth" POA, which IMO is legal but not ethical.
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chritz
Jan 16, 2012
I would have a sit down with a mediator (aka neutral party--like her Physician or a Social Worker) to discuss the situation and your concerns with them. While you have the "power" to do what you choose, it is her Family. Maybe once they better understand her condition they would change their minds, but if the situation was reverse would you want someone else making decisions for your family? If they still insist let them try. The last thing you want is for this to turn into a battle. There's enough stress in the situation with her condition already the best thing to do is find a way everyone can agree and be happy.
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mommag
If you wanted to turn the POA and HCP over to them and walk away, that would be ok. They are her family regardless of how they have acted in the past. I would pass the patton and leave it to her family and doctors and social worker to decide. Don't you want to have your own life? I surely would.
ejbunicorn
Yes you have poa so it is your right to day no, if they want to challenge that then they have to take you to court
Kitty
Does your POA include making medical decisions or is there a separate Medical Power of Attorney or Health Care Proxy? The medical and health concerns outweigh the others, so whoever has is MPOA generally has the ultimate decision.
JonathninOregon
A dementia patient is always at risk of receiving marginal care or worse. Your father's gf is receiving one level of care in the nursing home. It may be better care than you could give her when she lived with you and caused you problems. Her family might give her better care than she is now receiving. There's a judgment call to make regarding her quality of care. All the other issues are at the mercy of who has the best lawyer and the deepest pockets full of money. The other relevant issue is how much money the gf has, which will be in the hands of the winner. As in most cases regarding health care these days, it's not the principle of the thing, it's the money. Sad but true.
dnnstpierre
Thanks to all of you for your feedback. I do want her family to be able to take her to live with them. I would gladly revoke my POA and HCP if I knew beyond a doubt it was the right thing to do. I guess only time will tell. If they make regular visits to her and take her on weekends I think she will adjust. I just don't want them to take her and decide this is not what they were expecting and goes right back to a nursing home. At least with me she knows I pick her up each Sunday at 10:30am and we spend the day together.
Aune
Jan 17, 2012
I would not rush into anything. My question is where was the family when you initially became her guardian ? I think it would benefit the lady greatly to have a social worker involved who can ask some questions & look a little deeper into the family history and lifestyle. While you want her to be with family, you don't want her to be anymore upset than she is over how people treat her. Everyone needs love, respect & responsible & caring people in their life. We also need security & safety. That should be the number one priority for her.
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