Dreams and Past Events: What is Reality for People With Dementia?

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What is Reality for Dementia Patients?

I called my friend Kay recently to wish her a very happy 86th birthday—and to discretely check on the effectiveness of the dementia medication I encouraged her to take after she finally agreed to see a dementia specialist six months ago. After years of trying to persuade her, I was surprised when she finally consented, saying she was noticing that her memory was really slipping and it was scaring her.

During our hour-long conversation (testing) as we covered politics, religion and the meaning of life, I was delighted to hear Kay sounding much clearer than she'd been in quite a while—indicating the medication was indeed working. But then… suddenly she threw in a zinger. "Oh Jacqueline, I was so excited when we got your message on the answering machine yesterday that you are writing another book—is it a sequel to "Elder Rage"?

"Ummm, no Kay, I didn't leave a message."

"Yes, you most certainly did! You said you'd call today to wish me a happy birthday and that you'd tell me all about your new book."

Darn, and we were doing so well. I finally convinced her that she probably just had a vivid dream as I always call on her birthday, but she started to cry that she feared she was losing her mind. I felt terrible, as maybe I should have just agreed, but then I'd have to lie about writing a new book. I didn't want to make things worse by telling her she was having delusional thinking (false beliefs which occur with dementia), so I just made light of how our minds can play tricks on us.

Then she whispered that she was also having episodes of déjà vu. "Jacqueline, my family takes me out to places like a new restaurant, and I just feel so strongly that I have already been there, even though they assure me that I haven't. Do you think that déjà vu is part of this dementia thing I have too?"

"Ohhh, maybe, but I wouldn't worry about déjà vu and vivid dreams—those types of things start to happen to most of us as we get a little older. Just remember to rely on what your family tells you as the truth—and then just laugh about it with them and enjoy what you are doing, okay?"

I rushed to the computer to research dementia, dreams and déjà vu and found that since dreams are stored in our long-term memory, if a person with dementia and short-term memory loss sees something that reminds them of something from a dream, they can think they have experienced it in real life and have that eerie feeling of déjà vu.

I also contacted Dr. Rodman Shankle, MS, MD, a highly respected neurologist specializing in dementia who contributed an extensive addendum to "Elder Rage". He explained it this way:

"With regard to déjà vu: What happens is that as the short-term and long-term memories start to disappear, the memories that remain are perceived as the patient's current reality. So, say you are 75 years old, but demented to the point where you think it is 1959—you would perceive yourself to be only 25 years old. And even though your brother would also be in his seventies, he would appear more like your father to you, since you'd believe that you and your brother are only in your twenties. This is why as dementia progresses, patients often begin to perceive their own children as their parents."

 
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MiaMadre

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Apr 15, 2009

I am always encouraged when I read a story such as this. So many times I have been chastised by my brothers for 'going along with Mom when she thinks I am her sister, or her Mother. They seem to feel that by doing so I am contributing to her confusion. They could not be MORE wrong.

I am sure that playing along with HAPPY recollections, and happier times is much kinder than constantly correcting Mom when she gets confused.

So many times I have found that Mom is most confused when she is hungry, thirsty or even sleepy! Keeping Mom hydraged and her diet low in sodium and rich in protein keeps her blood sugar more 'level' throughout the day and her confusion to a minimum.

Of course there are many times I'm not sure what I am doing is right UNTIL I read others with similar stories such as yours.

 
 

KayBe

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Apr 15, 2009

Great Story. My mom is not there yet but I do see the signs coming. I'm glad to hear that it is OK to go along with the story during their episode. Mom does not remember events accurately and I don't try to argue, just never thought of going along for the ride. This caretaking is the hardest thing I have ever encountered, it's nice to know it's OK to escape for a moment during the day just to make mom feel like she's OK. Thanks

 
 

Jerome

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Apr 16, 2009

I think it is important to consider that when these episodes are happening, it is a sign that they are working it through, to have a resolution to the event. Be glad they are fighting/struggling to resolve the event. When they are no longer continually coherent, and what they say is music of their own language creation. you will miss working with a language connection. Hopefully they will eat, smile, sing
and you will gain additional benefits. This helps you learn more about yourself, who you are, and what you will do.

 
 

determined

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Apr 16, 2009

A great and loving story. My Mom has progress and now I am seeing these signs from time to time. One of my sisters is a nurse and feels I need to correct Mom but everything I have read on Alzheimer's Disease tells you to go along as not to upset her. You can never win the argument anyone so why upset her. Her happiness is my main concern and I have told my sister that she is wrong. Thanks for sharing your story. It helps to know what others are doing to cope.

Genny

 
 

just4mymom

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Apr 16, 2009

This was a great story!!! Thank you for sharing. I go thru this 60% of the time with my mom. I find also that is just as easy to go along with whatever story she is teeling, even it is fabricated a little. When you attempt to correct them, it only makes them more aggravated, and the situation worse, because in their mind it is what it is!!! My mom just on last night had an episode that she has not had before since she was diagnosed with "Alzheimers" almost 6 years ago. I was in the computer room, and I heard some moaning off and on, then she yelled out for me. When I went to see about her, she was just shaking tremendously. I was scared, because I had never experienced this, but I didn't let on to her. She was shaking like she was butt naked out in the cold in Siberia!!!!! Not knowing what exactly to do, I just started talking to her, and holding her, so that she could be reassured that I was there, and that nothing was going tohappen to her. She was so scared until she could not even walk to the bathroom. I remember I had those "ATIVAN" tablets from the doctor, so I put one of those under her tongue. We eventually made it back to lying down in bed, and I just laid witrh her, and cuddled her like a baby until her nerves calmed down. I would appreciate any insight into this matter, if anyone has experienced this. I've decided if it happens again, that I will immediately get her in to her Neurologist. "THANKS" family!!!!

 
 

ugotcarrie

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Apr 16, 2009

Seeing these posts from only 11 hours ago makes me realize I'm not the only one going thru this right now! Thanks! That was a great story thanks for sharing.
My Mom does those things, sometimes thinking my Nana will be home soon or asks for my Dad. She told the nursee she was 56 and lived with her Mom the other day. I just go along and she's fine. I have to hand it too her. She is going thru this with so much grace. I couldn't do that. She never ever complains and when i see her feel aggravated she fights it back She is an amazing lady.
At first i dreaded the loss of freedom job etc, but now I have a purpose and feel calm and happy that I got to do what I could to make my Mom happy.
I read on another forum that some adult children feel a sense of fulfillment and I guess this is what it is. Mind you some days are trying but I WOULDN'T WANT TO BE DOING ANYTHING ELSE RIGHT NOW. She's the best.
Hospice which is available for Alzhiemer is available if the Dr will sign her up for it stating 6 months or less. She has been on for 1 1/4 years. They come and clean he 3-7x a week, deliver drugs to the door, have visiting nurses, counselors and a respite Hospice House to take your loved one to stay in if u need a respite. God love them. I couldn't have done it with out their help support and coaching. All covered by Medicare too.
Good luck to all my "New friends" in here. One day at a time.

 
 

Anne

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Apr 18, 2009

I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry. I love this thread. It gives us so much to think about and explore. I laugh because you've given us hope. I cry because I can't understand the words my Dad, who has Advanced Stage Alzheimer's is saying. I cry because we didn't understand what he was going through for the past few years. I cry because it is hard to lose a loved one to an altered sense of reality. Grief. I don't mean to be a downer, but this thread brings so many things to my mind. And the posts to follow have contributed to that. I'm at a loss for more words, but would like to address each one of you directly (at another time). Amazing thread!!! Thank you for sharing it.

 
 

melindabr

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Apr 19, 2009

Yeah, guess I should go with it. Trouble is, both my mother and I have been brutally frank all our lives -- ok, tactless -- and "the truth" comes out of my mouth before I can think about it. My mom threw a hissy fit yesterday when some old friends came over to visit me (mom lives downstairs) and I didn't bring them down for two hours. Seems she thought they were coming to see her. Rather than soothing her, I gave her hell for yet another impingement on my life (I'm 56 and more than tired of taking care of her for many years.). I later made up to her, but her feelings were very hurt, especially since she has no friends of her own at this point. I swear, every day there's a new hurdle to navigate, and I usually screw it up!

 
 

lonken

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Apr 19, 2009

I'm 37 with two kids (ages 8 and 4) and a husband to take care of, yet I took on the caregiving duties of my grandmother. My mother passed in 2002 and gran's only surviving son feels that just calling once a day is enough. She has been living with us 2 1/2 years, but I've been responsible for her (groceries, doctors, etc) way longer than that. Talk about an "impingement on my life." My family cannot go on vacation, my kids cannot have friends over for extended periods of time, and I pretty much cannot leave the house for more than a few minutes without taking her along. I have no help

 
 

lonken

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Apr 19, 2009

(I noticed my entire message did not post... so here is the rest)

I have no help from my sisters or uncle. But, I am willing to do whatever I can to keep my grandmother out of the nursing home. She saw my granddad go through too much there. I'm just very happy that I still have her with me and will do whatever I can to keep her with me as long as I can.

 
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